U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris said on Thursday that proposals that would give up large parts of Ukraine’s sovereign territory are proposals for surrender, not peace. https://t.co/oXA0ForwPt pic.twitter.com/QR654GAQHE
— Voice of America (@VOANews) September 27, 2024
One of the very few surprises of the Trump-Harris debate was the fact that Kamala was so staunch on the need for endless war in the Ukraine.
She has jettisoned virtually all of Biden’s program, getting rid of the overwhelming majority of the “woke” stuff, ignoring trannies and actively saying we need to close the border and start getting rid of the immigrant filth occupying our country.
Biden’s three signature policies were turning kids into trannies, opening the border and allowing an unlimited flow of poor people and criminals into the US, and fighting an endless war in the Ukraine. All three are extremely unpopular, but the Ukraine war is the one Kamala is holding onto.
Trump has flip-flopping on the Ukraine a dozen times, as he has repeatedly flip-flopped on virtually everything this election cycle, but lately he’s hit on the unpopularity of the war and apparently been allowed by his Israeli-Jew backers to claim this war should end.
AP:
With American support for Ukraine at a partisan crossroads, Vice President Kamala Harris on Thursday slammed suggestions that Kyiv should cede territory for the sake of peace with Moscow as “dangerous and unacceptable.”The Democratic presidential nominee spoke alongside Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy as she unleashed the veiled criticism of Republican candidate Donald Trump’s push for Ukraine to quickly cut a deal to end the war.
“They are not proposals for peace,” Harris said. “Instead they are proposals for surrender.”
Yeah, obviously they are both, you stupid Paki.
People surrender in wars they are losing because they want peace. It’s a core principle of “just war” that if you have no hope of victory, you’re supposed to surrender, rather than send your people to die for no reason.
Zelensky presents himself as having a messianic complex, believing he can do magic and somehow defeat a country that is five times the size of his corrupt Jewish terrorist base. He probably does not believe his own messiah rhetoric, and is instead just stacking up the billions in his offshore accounts.
Her comments were a reminder of the high stakes for the war effort in this year’s election. Trump, for his part, has criticized U.S. assistance for Ukraine, praised Russian President Vladimir Putin and faulted Zelenskyy for the ongoing bloodshed.Trump said he will meet with Zelenskyy in New York on Friday after days of questions over whether the two leaders will sit down together. He rejected Harris’ criticisms and insisted that he only wants to stop the “horror show that’s gone on.”
It is a horror show, obviously. But you don’t have to care about shoving hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians – an entire generation of men – into this meatgrinder in order to be opposed to this war. It is wasting huge amounts of money, it is destroying the economies of “our allies in Europe,” and it is risking a nuclear war. The purposes of the war are totally unclear, and when you ask the left about the purpose, they just go into faggot moralizing about the sacred nature of post-USSR borders in the former USSR, as if Americans are supposed to care about that (for reasons no one can explain).
Asked if Ukraine should give up territory, Trump said “we’ll see what happens” and “we need peace.”
Reporter: What’s your message for Zelensky tomorrow?
Trump: Let’s get some peace. We need peace. pic.twitter.com/M4aesXzhge— Bruce Snyder (@realBruceSnyder) September 26, 2024
Before announcing the meeting with Zelenskyy, Trump posted on social media a purported message from the Ukrainian leader asking to see him. The message, which was not confirmed by Ukrainian officials, said “we have to strive to understand each other.”The decision to publicly disclose what appeared to be private communications, however benign their contents, was a reminder of the tension that’s been brewing between Trump and Zelenskyy.
American presidential candidate Donald Trump shared this message on Truth Social.
It appears to be a message from President Zelensky to Trump, requesting that they meet during his visit to the US. pic.twitter.com/1lCsNhPb4C
— Astraia (@astraiaintel) September 26, 2024
It was a far different impression than Harris delivered Thursday as she embraced Ukraine’s defense and outlined a broader foreign policy vision rooted in “international order, rules and norms.” Harris rejected calls for the U.S. to walk away from its global role and warned that potential aggressors could be emboldened if Putin emerges victorious.“The United States supports Ukraine not out of charity, but because it’s in our strategic interest,” Harris said.
Well, that’s a lot different than what I’ve been told for the last three years. I was told this was exactly charity, and the whole thing was a moral quest to protect democracy values (hardcore child trannyism) in the Donbass.
If it’s about strategic interest, we need more than rhetoric regarding that. The idea that America cannot have security if Russia exists at all is nonsensical. None of these problems between Russia and the West existed before the US went apeshit and started harassing Russia for no clear reason.
The idea Putin wanted to invade the Ukraine is idiotic, and no one who has any idea of the history of this conflict believes that stupid children’s lie. Putin engaged with the Minsk Accords in good faith, trying to find a solution to the problems in the Ukraine that did not involve war, and the West sabotaged those efforts, only for Merkel and other leaders to later claim that they were lying when they made these agreements and always planning for a war against Russia.
The problem is, Russia is not being destroyed, and this war has actually strengthened their economy and their military. The US has also alienated the entire world with this bizarre warmongering.
If it’s not about charity, someone needs to explain how it helps America. But no one is going to do that.
🇺🇸🇺🇦 | TRUMP SLAMS UKRAINE:
“Ukraine no longer exists because they refused a ‘bad deal’ in 2022.
Cities can’t be restored, the dead can’t be revived. Even the worst deal would have been better. Zelensky continues to refuse, while we send billions.”“Ukraine is out of… pic.twitter.com/bWgGf3Fm8e
— Breaking News (@PlanetReportHQ) September 26, 2024