Authors: Dr. Livsci and Rurik
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The Russian question is probably second only to the Christianity question when it comes dividing J-woke right-wingers.
Back in the early days, blogger Rolo/Rurik of the Slavland Chronicles stated that as far as he was concerned that there were only two political camps that mattered to him: the anti-Russia and pro-Russia camps that his side was the pro-Russian one. Because of his skepticism of ideology as a concept—claiming that it was infinitely malleable—he said that it didn’t matter to him what reasoning led someone to take up the pro-Russia position, misguided or malicious, so long as at the end of the theorizing they were pointing their guns away from Russia, not at Russia. He said that this was the only thing that mattered in the final count.
But is this still a valid criteria for evaluating geopolitics 2+ years later?
With the ongoing Not-War nightmare, can pro-White right-wingers anywhere in the world still maintain a pro Russian stance? I think they can, but that this still requires a serious re-evaluation of what being pro-Russian means in the context of what we have learned about the Kremlin and Putin based on how they have conducted themselves during this Not-War.
Before the start of the SMO, being pro-Russian was strongly linked with being pro-Putin, especially for Westerners.
More than that, the perennial position on leadership taken by most people throughout history in various guises is that the Tsar is always good but that the boyars/ministers directly below him are misleading or sabotaging the Tsar. If the Tsar only knew what his officials got up to in his name! Once he finds out, he will clean house and save his people! And actually, prior to the SMO ripping the curtain back on the MO and true face of the Kremlin, this was not an unreasonable position to take.
Despite all the nastiness revealed to us about the Kremlin’s true MO, I believe that I can still make a case for why nationalists should still support Russia, despite the fact that “the Tsar” clearly does not support them back.
Let’s start by examining the argument put forward by a vocal and infamous Russian Nationalist fighting in the Donbass against the UAF. His real name is Aleksei Milchakov, but he went by the call sign “Fritz” during round one of the war in Donetsk (the first 8 years). He also had an ID number on his militia identity card that was literally “1488”. He has openly threatened to return to Russia and kill Azeri migrant gangsters who were caught beating random Russian children on playgrounds over social media. Finally, he has also previously stated in interviews that he is an open and proud National-Socialist, although he has been forced to distance himself from that in recent years. I’m referring, of course, to Rusich Battalion’s famous/infamous leader, who goes by the call-sign “Serb” nowadays.
Serb stated in his interview (that Rurik bullet-point translated some months back) that either Russia will win this war or Russia will perish. Because of this view, on his Telegram channel he openly applauds Kiev’s escalations against Russia because he wants to get the Kremlin’s back firmly pressed up against the wall.
When Ukraine drone-striked one of Russias early warning radars meant to detect incoming nuclear attacks, Serb wrote something along the lines of: “Fine by me, anything that makes goodwill gestures and cuckoldry to the West more difficult is good for Russia”. The situation is literal “do or die” for Russia in his mind.
And now let us examine the claims of the other camp, made by anti-Russian nationalists fighting on the side of Kiev and NATO in Donbass (and now Kursk). Of course, everyone knows that the West is a satrap of Israel in hard right wing circles and has known so for decades now. Furthermore, the occupied governments of the West do everything in their power to destroy White people. And so, being a 1488er that supports Kiev and NATO seems rather contradictory and many people have brought this contradiction up.
The reply to this claim by Azov (a famous Neo-Nazi battalion) is that they will overthrow ZOG, but only after they have destroyed Russia first. After defeating Russia, the Neo-Nazis in Ukraine claim that they will turn their attention to Kiev and then the EU and all of NATO. What makes this more interesting is that some of their more public personalities are at least partially Jewish and have close connections to the IDF. The most egregious example of this is “White Rex” or Denis Kapustin, who used to be an FSB officer/asset working to undermine Russian Nationalist groups in Russia as an agent provocateur.
In 2016, Kapustin and his mother received the status of Jewish refugees in Germany. And Kapustin now runs the RVF (Russian Volunteer Force) which claims to be a Russian Nationalist organization fighting against the tyranny of Moscow on the side of Kiev. Before Kiev invaded Kursk and took over the town of Sudzha (without any resistance offered by Putin), the RVF was supposedly the group organizing cross-border raids into Belgorod and other surrounding provinces. They work closely with Azov and there is significant overlap between the two organizations.
Just to reiterate: the ideological leader of the Russian nationalist volunteers sent in to take hostages in Russia by Kiev is himself Jewish.
Meanwhile, when Slavs were in charge of Azov more than a decade ago, the organization was pan-Slavic and saw Russians and Ukrainians as one people. After their buy-out by Jewish oligarchs (like Kholomoisky most famously), the organization adopted a new, genocidal rhetoric towards Russians and was taken over by literal IDF commanders.
Azov began to accuse Russians of being mixed-race Finnic mongrels and different on a genetic level to Ukrainians. This, despite the fact that the vast majority of the organization was Russian-speaking and hailed from Ukraine’s eastern regions. They then “elected” an actual Finn to run their organization just to make the whole situation more Kafkaesque.
Now, these same anti-Russian nationalists will claim that they will create an Eastern European Empire which will be just like the 4th Reich in the near future. But for now though, they tell their supporters that they’ve got to play it cool and to play it smart. That they’ve got to use NATO and the US and to allow themselves to be used by them. Finally, one day in the future, they will reveal their true agenda and outplay the US, Brussels and Tel Aviv. I am not misconstruing their positions, mind you. This is what they post on their social media to their followers.
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It is quite similar to QAnon in the way that their supporters are strung along with promises of a day of reckoning to come when all of their enemies are outsmarted and defeated. In the meantime, they have to play along though, see? This is the same line used by many modern political charlatans and their PR teams, including Trump and Putin as well. Their supporters are told that at some future date, their man will suddenly reveal his secret patriotism and deliver on all of his promises to his followers. Between that point and now though, well, the game has to be played of course, and their followers have to be patient and understanding of all the backsliding and apparent setbacks.
And of course no one asks why the game is being revealed in public posts that the enemy can read thereby spoiling the whole plan because people prefer pleasant fantasies to the hard truth of how they are being lied to and screwed.
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So now we compare and contrast the two camps and their claims.
Is Serb’s pro-Russian position less or more sane than the Azov/RVF anti-Russian right-winger position? In some ways, they are equally insane because Ukraine and Russia both have no viable future as sovereign states if things continue as they are now. However, it is clear that someone like Serb is fighting for simple bare bones survival. All of Putin’s faults or treachery or anti-nationalism notwithstanding, NATO really is now at Russia’s doorstep and now we are having an armed referendum on whether Russia will continue as a state or become another failed, carved-up rump state post-Soviet satrapy similar to … well, Ukraine.
But wait, isn’t Ukraine also fighting for survival?
Well no, Ukrainian SS LARPers aren’t fighting for their survival in any meaningful way and we have ample proof for this that has come out over the last couple of years. Most importantly, Minsk I and II and Istanbul were very generous (downright treasonous even!) peace deals offered by Moscow to Kiev. And the Kremlin in no way threatened the survival of Ukrainian statehood with these treaties. They all called for the reintegration of Donbass into Ukraine and a release of Crimea to boot.
I write all of this not as a Putin-apologist or an SMO-defender, but quite the opposite. What Putin signed onto with these peace deals was treasonous to Russia. Even now, Putin does not want to conquer Ukraine; he clearly wants a ceasefire that will allow him to save face and save the head that his face sits on and to return to some semblance of the status quo pre-SMO.
The original SMO objectives were, at best, related to regime change or getting Putin’s oligarch buddies restored to their positions of economic and political privilege in Ukraine, not the conquest of Ukraine. Russia was also fine with Ukraine joining EU. All of the escalation has been on Moscow’s side, not on Kiev’s. Putin doesn’t cross any redlines, nor does Putin enforce the red lines that he himself has drawn. Furthermore, Russia has been on the back foot since 2014. Putin and his FSB were caught with their pants down at the Sochi Olympics as the Maidan coup occurred. They lost Ukraine and most of Donbass in the next eight years.
Initiating the SMO was the one anomaly to the policy of steady retreat and surrender to the West Putin has pursued since being appointed to succeed Yeltsin by Kissinger and Finkelstein (Primakov). However, the SMO went south only weeks after being launched, forcing retreats across all of Ukraine. On the political side of things, what has Moscow been doing this whole time? They’ve been begging for negotiations and involved in secret talks that were deliberately spiked by Kiev with their Kursk invasion.
So no, no and no.
It is Russia that is fighting for survival (even though the Putin regime is clearly not interested in fighting seriously), not Ukraine. To be more precise, right-wingers like Serb, Pitbull, the Strelkovists, the Nazbols and all the other types are fighting for Russia’s survival while the Kremlin is fighting for better surrender terms. Kiev is fighting for Washington’s interests, and Ukrainian Neo-Nazis are fighting for, in theory, some future 4th Reich after they destroy Russia and overthrow ZOG while in practice they are fighting for Washington’s interests. The relative sizes of these countries on the world map are enough to make people instinctively see Ukraine as the underdog though when nothing could be further from the truth.
Of course, Serb and all the other anti-Putin right-wing types in Russia do call for the destruction of Ukrainian statehood. However this isn’t a relevant point to bring up really, because Moscow doesn’t care what they say and has arrested half of the Russian nationalist movement at this point. Russian right-wingers are not running this war or the country of Russia for that matter — someone very different is.
Furthermore, the proposition that Ukraine in its current format is a mortal threat to Russia is reasonable given that it has become a very dangerous, very well-armed NATO golem that has already literally invaded and claimed territory from Russia (Kursk). That is, for Russian right-wingers to take the position that this golem ought to be permanently removed from the chessboard is reasonable from their point of view.
Sadly, Putin does not agree with Russian right-wingers on this in the slightest.
And this is the biggest stumbling block that right wingers in the West face when trying to make sense of the conflict. The rhetoric from the Kremlin is clearly as anti-nationalist as Kiev’s or the West’s (if not more) and Putin is clearly no friend to nationalists (or Russians for that matter) if one takes the time to investigate his policies as ruler of Russia for more than 20 years. It makes sense then to knee-jerk support the people who are ostensibly fighting the man at the head of a self-styled “Antifa Multinational Values State” that seeks to spread this system Westward.
But the answer to the question “who to support?” is quite clear.
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We can easily conclude that Kiev is run by a hostile and foreign junta of Jews because of how visibly Jewish the entire government is. From the President to his second-in-command Chief of Staff, to the Der Sturmer caricature of a Defense Minister and pretty much every single minister in between really, Ukraine is completely run by Jews. And while the Kremlin is much more opaque, it is largely the same. Putin’s top bankers, his top oligarch friends, his ex-defense minsters, his chief of staff, his prime minister and so on are not Russians. Then we can look at the kinds of right-wingers fighting for each side and notice that the Ukrainian side is filled with the same rogue’s gallery of villains. We can also notice just how much good press and international funding and government support that Ukraine’s anti-Russian nationalists get. In contrast, when we look at the plight of Russia’s nationalists, we see a very marginalized and set upon group. They are targeted by both Washington-Kiev and Moscow.
So using a simple heuristic, we just have to ask ourselves, which group of right-wingers are probably the good guys?
Could it be the ones that Moscow harasses, jails and murders and whom NATO also wants to kill … or is it the ones that NATO arms, funds, does PR for, Israel treats in its hospitals (yes Azov members have literally been treated in Israel) and whom Moscow’s top oligarch (Abramovich) takes on private jet tours where they are fed tiramisu and given free iPhones after they surrender?
Which ones are probably more likely to be our guys?
It is a real head-scratcher, for sure!
Perhaps the most common position for the Western right-winger at this point is to believe that the sooner the war ends the better. Slavs are being sent to slaughter each other while their cities are being flooded with invaders from Central Asia and Africa. I would be lying if I said I didn’t at least partially feel that way myself and sympathize with the reasoning behind such a position.
But the lingering question is this: is it truly reasonable to assume that Russia will be allowed to surrender at all?
After all, Japan wanted to surrender to America, but they were fire-bombed into submission anyway. And once the revolutionaries toppled the Tsar, they stopped fighting the Germans, but that didn’t stop the Germans from advancing eastward. Also, we know from history that sometimes unjust peace deals are worse than terrible wars. See Germany for proof of that again.
So, will Russia be given peace terms by NATO which will allow her to remain intact long-term?
What if Russian right-wingers like Serb and Strelkov are right and Washington will stop at nothing short of Russia’s disintegration and collapse?
What if new negotiations and a Minsk 3 kind of peace deal will be a prelude to Russia’s total dissolution?
What if fighting on in a horrible, pointless, grinding war of attrition for oligarchs’ interests is worse than the alternative — Weimar Russia?
If Serb and Strelkov and other Russian right-wingers are correct then the bloodletting going on now is going to be a drop in the bucket compared to what is to come. We are talking about the 90s returning with a vengeance and probably another war down the line on even worse terms for Russia. Maybe multiple wars even, with secessions happening all over the territory of the current Russian Federation. This is how NATO plans to carve up Russia and this is the doomsday scenario that Russian right-wingers are looking at.
Compare this to the doomsday scenario for Ukrainian right-wingers.
The worst that they get is the Istanbul Accords where even Crimea is re-leased from them, even if Kiev doesn’t necessarily get all of Donbass back immediately. This is hardly comparable or existential.
It feels dirty at this point to be writing what seems like a pro-war apologetic after everything we have found out together about the true nature and MO of the Kremlin over the last 2+ years. Russian right-wingers were warning about Putin’s perfidy since 2014 and many simply weren’t ready to listen. Now though, they warn that a bad peace will be worse than the continuation of this grotesque war.
So, perhaps we ought to listen this time?
I mean, what if Putin is actually right when he says that the US really is the “Empire of Lies” and therefore incapable of honoring agreements made with Moscow? Bizarrely, Putin will say this and then ask for more negotiations and agreements and will sign off on them right after warning that they are worthless only to exclaim that he has been fooled and led by the nose when it blows up in his face again. Perhaps the sensible thing for the Western right winger is simply to conclude that this all has nothing to do with him anyway and there are no good guys in either Moscow or Kiev and the nationalists on both sides are just fools for wanting to keep feeding the blood god with their daily offerings.
Fair enough, perhaps.
But put yourself in the shoes of the Russian Nationalist who now has NATO tanks on his soil (Kursk) and who has been warning about exactly this happening thanks to Putin’s perfidy since 2014. The NAFO refrain that there are now NATO tanks on Russian soil because Putin was the one who launched an SMO invasion of Ukraine to begin with is actually true. But the implication is that Putin is to blame for this current state of affairs, which is exactly what a Russian right-winger would say as well. This is indeed all Putin’s fault — it certainly isn’t the fault of Russian right-wingers! They would also add that this bizarre mess is all because of Putin refusing to fight a real war and insisting on fighting a disastrous “special anti-Nazi policing operation in fraternal socialist Ukraine nation” and on following the so-called “gentleman’s rules” that they’ve agreed to beforehand with Washington.
The Russian Nationalists have been saying since 2014 that the NATO tanks are coming and now they are saying “I told you so”. They aren’t saying “how did this happen?” while tearing out their hair and gnashing their teeth. They know exactly how it happened and who is to blame. Putin’s government spent the years up to the conflict in Ukraine privatizing and gutting the military. They then squashed the Russian Spring (populist Russian movement in favor of integrating Donbass into Russia) and tried to push Donbass back against its will back into the arms of Kiev. Only after the arrest of Putin’s close friend Viktor Medvedchuk did Putin ask Washington for permission to do his SMO and then walked straight into a trap.
Thus, the Kremlin blundered into a war after years of trying to avoid one and there is no way out now as far as the Russian Nationalists are concerned.
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Prior to February of 22, I was a bit skeptical of the Rusich guys, Strelkov and Kvachkov because I thought their predictions of doom and NATO tanks on Russian soil where absurd and that actually Putin had things under control. Well I was wrong and they were right. The presence of NATO armor on Russian soil now is part of the process of the curtain being thrown back on Putin and his Kremlin.
Also, to the Russian right-winger mind, Russia was already headed for dissolution well prior to the SMO anyway. To them, any return to the prior status quo is impossible —there is only total defeat and the long term dissolution of Russia or victory that leads to Ukraine’s reintegration into Russia.
Now, how likely is such a victory?
In the military sense it is now totally impossible, of course. But that is OK because Putin and his people are more concerned with “moral victories” than securing the interests of the Russian state. In all seriousness though, the likelihood of victory shouldn’t be the measure of who you are supporting should it? In practice though, people want to support the winning team and most analysis is geared at proving that their side is winning. The idea that someone might support a cause or a team or a side even though they believe them to be losing is very difficult for most people to even conceptualize. I support Russia despite the fact that Putin might well end up in the Hague and lead Russia to total destruction and that the odds of this occurring are more likely than Russia winning the war against Kiev. In fact, the gloomy prospects don’t dissuade me in the slightest.
For me, the reasoning is simple.
I support the cause of the Russian Nationalists because the entire Putin Occupation Government in Moscow is against them, Washington is against them, Kiev is trying to kill them in Ukraine and no one in the West even knows about these guys because of a total informational blackout created by pro-Putin Z-bloggers pretending that these guys either don’t exist or are all traitors to multipolarity. Others should support them if for no other reason than the fact that they are hated by all of the worst people. Maybe it is totally ridiculous of them to hold out hope that Russia will be dragged into fighting a war of survival for real instead of this bizarre SMO, but this is nowhere near as fantastical a hope as the creation of an Eastern European Azov Reich.
Think of it like this.
In all likelihood Iran is a satrapy of the West just like Russia. Hezbollah is probably doomed and was sold out by the mullahs in Tehran to Israel. There is still, nonetheless, the mid-level Hezbollah leadership and the grunts beneath them that survived the pager-bomb massacre and the subsequent bombing/assassination. They are still out there, fighting the IDF and giving them a bloody nose.
Personally I find these mid-level Hezbollah commanders’ and grunts’ refusal to die faster appalling in light of Jewish suffering during the Holocaust, but if I were an immoral person who didn’t use the Holocaust as a heuristic for good and bad, I would be tempted to support and admire these Hezbollah guys who fight on regardless of the fact that their long-term prospects are grim and despite the fact that they probably have knives poised above their own backs from their compromised leadership, Israeli bombs dropping down on them from overhead and bullets coming whistling at them from the front. Are they stupid for resisting? I am not sure.
What I do feel sure about though is that it doesn’t take much courage at all to simply roll over or refuse to even start fighting. That is what the average Westerner does: absolutely nothing. And maybe he is “correct” to do so. Either way, I bring up Hezbollah because it is roughly analogous to where Russian right-wingers are — between a rock and a hard place.
Respected readers, you don’t have to be “Zigger” or a Kremlinite to support the motley crew of arrested debtors, convicted zeks, football hooligans and genuine political idealists fighting for Russia on the Donbass front. Like the Hezbollah grunts, the Russian guys in the line of fire could very well be making a last stand and going down fighting against incredible odds. Perhaps other Russians will even envy their quick end in the struggles of the decades to come. The only even remotely valid criticism that can be leveled against Russian right-wingers is that they need to find a way to save Russia by getting rid of Putin first and foremost. That is, that they should sign a kind of temporary Brest-Litovsk peace deal to end the war with major territorial concessions and to focus on seizing power like the Bolsheviks did, only without the support of the international ethnic banking, media and spook state mafia behind their backs.
Or maybe they should do more podcasts and focus on their blogging?
Jokes aside, I’m genuinely sympathetic to those who are appalled by this Slavic bloodbath. My conclusion though is that this is a kind of last stand for Russia and not not a war of choice. To say that it is time to throw in towel or that the Russian Nationalists are just gullible fools willingly going to the slaughter presupposes that Russia can actually surrender on good terms and get back to a kind of status quo. Most Russian Nationalists go to fight despite their government and have nothing but contempt for Putin. They simply don’t see a future for Russia if the war is lost, regardless of who is at the helm.
This is a case that I’ve not seen anyone make to the English-speaking world before.
Hopefully you found it convincing.
